Ep 100 - Honoring an Obscure Saint with Fr. Peregrine

Summary

Father Peregrine discusses his role as a Norbertine priest and novice master at St. Michael's Abbey. He shares the inspiration behind his book on St. Philomena and the importance of learning about saints and sharing their stories with children. Father Peregrine also highlights the courage and inspiration of St. Philomena, who was martyred at a young age. He discusses the discovery and controversy surrounding St. Philomena's relics and the devotion and miracles associated with her. Father Peregrine recommends other books and shares his future projects, including an illustrated life of St. Michael the Archangel.

Takeaways

1. Learning about saints and sharing their stories with children is important for fostering faith and inspiring virtue.
2. St. Philomena is a courageous and inspiring saint, particularly for her commitment to purity and her intercession for impossible causes.
3. The discovery of St. Philomena's relics and the miracles associated with her have led to a strong devotion to her among the faithful.
4. Other recommended books include those by Katie Warner and Adélie Huede, available from Tan Books.

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Transcript

The Manly Catholic (00:42.487)
Hello, all welcome to another episode of the Manly Catholic. I am James your host and with me tonight we have a very special guest we have a father Peregrine father Peregrine welcome to the Manly Catholic. And did I say your name correctly? I should have checked before we started.

Fr Peregrine (00:47.806)
Okay.

Fr Peregrine (01:01.886)
Thank you, it's great to be here.

Fr Peregrine (01:07.022)
You know, that's one way of saying it. Also, peregrine, like, yeah, that's the way I usually say it.

The Manly Catholic (01:10.071)
Parakorin.

Father Peregrine, thank you. I will correct it. Well before, so this is very special because Father Peregrine wrote a very special book which I will explain a little bit why it's very near and dear to my family. But he wrote a book brought to you by Tan Books and it's called My Name is Philomena, A Saint's Story. Now before we dive into that and a little bit more of your background, Father Peregrine, would you mind opening and a word of prayer for our audience?

Fr Peregrine (01:14.728)
You got it.

Fr Peregrine (01:40.286)
Absolutely. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners. Now and at the hour of our death, amen. Our Lady, cause of our joy, pray for us. Saint Philomena, pray for us. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, amen.

The Manly Catholic (02:04.654)
pray for us.

The Manly Catholic (02:10.242)
Amen. Thank you so much Father. Another question I always like to ask my guests to kick us off. If you could be the patron saint of anything, what would it be and why?

Fr Peregrine (02:18.75)
Gosh, well, that's a good question and a hard question, but I think I would probably like to say that I would like to lump myself in with those who are patrons of impossible causes, maybe like a St. Jude or a St. Rita or even a St. Philomena. That's a kind of a, those are go-to patrons for me, so I wouldn't mind jumping on their team.

The Manly Catholic (02:47.03)
That's not a bad team to jump on. I mean, that's some heavy hitters you got there, Father Peregrine. So you would be in good company. And, you know, it's funny. I always ask that question. Everyone's like, you know, if I could even just be considered a saint and I would be blessed enough to be a patron of something, I would just be happy.

Fr Peregrine (02:48.57)
Nothing. Yeah.

Amen.

Fr Peregrine (02:58.361)
Yes, true.

Actually, could I take my answer back? That's better. I like that better.

The Manly Catholic (03:07.098)
No, I love it though. That's such a good answer. And I always just love to kind of see where everyone's answers go. So it's perfect. So why don't you give our audience a bit of a background on you? Because I know you're a priest in the Norbertine order. And I know a lot of our audience probably is not familiar with that. Maybe explain a little bit about that. And I know you're at St. Michael's Abbey, which is actually very close to my hometown. I live in Placentia, California, growing up. Yeah, so it's about 30 minutes away from where you're at. So

Fr Peregrine (03:30.615)
Oh great, wonderful.

Fr Peregrine (03:35.242)
Yeah, let's go close.

The Manly Catholic (03:35.507)
You know my explain a little bit about the norbertine order and a little bit of your background

Fr Peregrine (03:39.89)
Absolutely won't. As you mentioned, I'm a Norbertine father. I was ordained in the year 2020, ordained a priest in a very tumultuous and memorable year. And I entered the order first as a postulant. I'm working on 11 years now, and I didn't know anything about the Norbertines. I'm from St. Louis, Missouri out in the Midwest. And I was discerning and...

preparing for a diocesan priesthood. So I was studying at an excellent seminary there called Kendrick Glennon Seminary. And I had been feeling over the years a pull to the religious life. And throughout my years in seminary, I was still feeling pulled to some kind of form of a monastic life or community life. So I ended up leaving the seminary to discern God's will. And I started looking into various monasteries. And I was so sure that

Saint Michael's Abbey, although it had been recommended to me, I was so sure it was going to be totally wrong for me because it was so far away. But as soon as I got here, I knew it was the right place for me. And one of the things that I learned about was, among many things, was about our Holy Father and Founder, Saint Norbert, who founded the Order 900 years ago, 900 plus years ago. We just celebrated

a couple years back, our 900th year anniversary. So we're in ancient order, an ancient order of canons, regular. And a canon regular is a priest who lives in common and prays the divine office and sings the divine office, especially with his fellow brother priests and canons and the seminarians who are trading with us as well. So my life is really singing the Psalms and praising God, telling him how amazing he is. That's the core of my life.

at our monastery here in Silverado, California. We have a beautiful abbey here. We just built it just three years ago and we had been living not far away, but our community has been growing and growing. There's over a hundred of us, Norbertines now, associated with our community at St. Michael's. So we outgrew the monastery. Now we're...

Fr Peregrine (05:53.102)
Now we have a new building and we also have a daughter, Abby, that we founded just this past year in Springfield, Illinois. And it's Corpus Christi Priory, and there's a few confers out there. So that's in a nutshell a little bit about us and a little bit about myself as a Norbertine father. My current assignment is I'm very, very blessed to work with our young men in formation. I'm the novice master here. So all the new recruits, so to speak.

They enter as postulants and they become novices for two years. They study about the order, spirituality, they live our way of life and discern whether or not they're going to take their first vows. So those who are in their initial years are with me and then after me they become a junior and they move on to another priest.

The Manly Catholic (06:43.638)
Wonderful. Well, thank you father for the work you're doing is it's extremely important and I will say props whoever runs your guys a social media page because I recently started following you guys actually Probably like three months ago and it's just beautiful like the artwork and how you guys you know, cuz you guys St. Michael's feast day which was in September and then our related Guadalupe to you guys had a bunch of things coming up for that which

Fr Peregrine (06:53.304)
Awesome.

Fr Peregrine (06:59.485)
Yeah.

Fr Peregrine (07:09.835)
Yes, gosh. This is, yeah. We had over 800 people here early in Guadalupe, and it's just amazing. We have a wonderful team who work really hard to put content that reflects the heart of the Abbey, our mission, our goals, to put that online in such a way that we can have a kind of...

The Manly Catholic (07:09.93)
Gosh, it was like, I wanna be there for that! It was incredible, so I'm sure it was experience. Oh my gosh.

Fr Peregrine (07:33.234)
digital monastery experience for those who might not be near St. Michael's Abbey, but might not even be near a monastery at all, you know, which is a really, it's a beautiful opportunity if you live nearby. But we're trying to make what we experience every day and then also throughout the big feasts of the church year, we're trying to make that accessible to people. So we have a really dedicated team of lay faithful and fathers who are busy working on the online digital ministry of our, of our Abbey.

The Manly Catholic (08:04.194)
You guys clearly have a very good team and you got they're doing great work So I do want to shift gears here a little bit So but before we started recording I mentioned st. Philomena had a very near and dear place to our family's heart And it's actually kind of funny because I'm a Catholic convert So I'm learning all these incredible saints and these stories and I remember st. Philomena the first time I hear I have actually The priest had a spiritual direction with I was just talking with him. He goes. Oh, yeah, I have a very

Fr Peregrine (08:11.123)
Sure.

Fr Peregrine (08:15.727)
Mm-hmm.

The Manly Catholic (08:33.13)
very special relationship with Saint Philomena. And he even actually has a statue of her in front of his rectory, like that's how close they are. And we have the stack of like, it's like a hundred Saint cards, right? And my son, he's gonna be five in February and we're just, you know, flipping through them and stuff. And for whatever reason, Saint Philomena, like he was drawn to her. And his first reaction, I must say, was that, well, she's really pretty.

Fr Peregrine (08:35.626)
Hmm.

Fr Peregrine (08:40.701)
Awesome.

Fr Peregrine (08:57.341)
Yeah.

The Manly Catholic (09:02.71)
But I would like to say the Holy Spirit was subtly working like she's a very holy woman. And so you should be drawn to her that way. But you know, a four and a half year old, whatever works for him. So I am very curious, Father, how this book came about. I'm assuming there's a special story that you have with Saint Philomena as well. And I'd love to kind of dive into that and what made you want to write a book about her.

Fr Peregrine (09:26.426)
Right, well, gosh, she's an amazing saint and I didn't come to know her at all till late in my, well, till in my, I guess my 20s. I was here at the Abbey. I started at age 26. I had never known anything about her. But when I entered the Abbey as a postulate, I noticed in our novitiate building, there was a statue to Saint Philomena. And I didn't know who she was at the time. So I could tell she was.

a saint of old and a virgin martyr based on the symbolism of the statue. And we also had a relic there in the hallway next to the statue and there was a candle and the brethren would be stopping by that statue all throughout the day making little pilgrimages, kneeling down. It was very edifying and really beautiful to me. So of course I asked, you know, who is the saint and what's her story? Why is she here?

She's clearly not a Norbertine saint, so why do Norbertines love her so much? And it turns out they told me her story and that she's a very special saint. And she was one of these early, early church martyrs under the persecution of Diocletian is when she lived and died. And she's been known to work many miracles. And in fact, she was canonized

more or less just because of the miracles that were discovered, that were occurring after the discovery of her relics. So, yeah, so I started praying to her, joining my brethren in their devotion to her. And I just had this strong sense that she's really looking out for me and for my community. And I really I need as many prayers as I can get and as many saints intercessions I can get. I just felt like, oh, yeah, I'm adding her to the list. And

And because of the strong sense that I had of her patronage and her care for me and my community, I thought I'm going to, I want to do something for her. And I love, I've always loved to draw. I'm an amateur artist, but I'm an artist nonetheless. I'm always trying to find something to create or paint or make. So I thought maybe I'll make her.

Fr Peregrine (11:43.87)
something and I thought, well, I could write her. I also like to write, some people write her a poem, maybe I'll make an image of her. And I thought, well, let's fuse these two things and maybe I'll make an illustrated story about her. So I started there in the novitiate and I didn't know what was going to become of the book. No one had asked me to write it and I wasn't getting it ready for publication, but I just started working on the project and that project took me 10 years to make. I had started

you know, in my earliest years of my novitiate. And then I ended a couple of years after I was ordained a priest. And I finished the project and it was slightly foolish in a way because I just, I sent the book out to a couple of publishers, several publishers, seeing if anyone is interested in this book. I asked my abbot permission, he gave me permission to do that. And really there was no interest initially. St. Philomena, I was told she's too obscure.

of a saint, people aren't going to be interested in St. Philomena, she's not relevant. And then other people just had, you know, I had finished the book. So you usually don't send a publisher a finished book and say, here's this project. Usually you give them an idea and then you work together. So long story short, I ended up getting in contact with Tan, who contacted the Abbey for another, they were looking for another book idea. And I said, I don't have that idea, but I do have this book.

The Manly Catholic (12:41.718)
Hmm

The Manly Catholic (12:59.211)
Right.

Fr Peregrine (13:10.378)
and no one else wants it, do you want this? And they were so generous and gracious to me and they took on the project. And they, yeah, whatever I wanted to do, they were so open to the ideas and they love St. Philomena and Tan Books. So it was just such a, it was a good, it was a beautiful partnership. So I'm very, very grateful. And that's a little bit about how the story came about. It was a long project, 10 years in the making. And so it's really.

The Manly Catholic (13:11.669)
Thank you.

The Manly Catholic (13:15.623)
Thank you.

The Manly Catholic (13:27.19)
Yes they do.

Fr Peregrine (13:39.242)
so beautiful to see that it's come to fruition and that people really love to learn about St. Philomena and love to pray to her. So it's been a beautiful journey.

The Manly Catholic (13:51.306)
Yeah, well first off, congratulations, 10 years you worked at it and you wrote and illustrated it. I mean, not many authors can say that, so that's quite the feat.

Fr Peregrine (13:59.526)
Well, yeah, I'm probably more of an illustrator than I'm a writer, but I can do a little bit of both. And so I just, yeah, I just did as much as best as I could in both realms and then fuse them together.

The Manly Catholic (14:13.27)
Now when you started this, Father, were you expecting it to sort of turn into a children's story or did it just kind of weave into that as the project was kind of progressing?

Fr Peregrine (14:22.298)
Yeah. Yeah, I suppose. I, you know what? I always had intended it to be an illustrated story.

And whether or not I meant it for children, it's certainly they were always an included, you know, demographic, so to speak. But my brothers, when I call it a children's book, some of my brothers here at the Abbey will say, no, father, it's a book for grown men too, because grown men need St. Philomena. So in a way, yeah, I always had a wide audience in mind with obvious, you know, realization that yes,

The Manly Catholic (14:56.575)
100%.

Fr Peregrine (15:03.538)
this is going to be mostly geared towards children and they're gonna be the ones who are probably more interested in it than not. But it's kind of a weird book because the text, while I hope children understand it, it's also written in a kind of poetic format that has, I think, some inspiration from other Catholic poets and authors. So I hope it's not too complicated. The feedback I've gotten has been good. So for people to get the story.

which I'm really glad about, but it's accessible to all ages, I think.

The Manly Catholic (15:36.138)
Well, I do, because you brought up a really important point, Father, is because I think sometimes when we hear saints, you know, especially men, we're more drawn to the, maybe the militaristic saints, you know, and like St. Michael the Archangel, which, you know, a phenomenal saint, obviously St. Michael's Abbey. But, you know, a saint like St. Philomena, I mean, my goodness, how many lessons we can learn as men, too, the courage that this, I believe she was 13 when she was martyred.

Fr Peregrine (15:50.485)
Hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Fr Peregrine (16:01.319)
Absolutely.

team.

The Manly Catholic (16:05.79)
Yeah, I mean, a 13 year old girl, like if I mean, I'm just trying to think back, you know, I was just briefly reading her story again before we started. There's the courage as a 13 year old to what first of all, she made a vow to Jesus Christ earlier than that, but to stick to that vow and three to face the emperor who wanted to marry her. And she said, no, like I made a vow to Jesus and I will take this to the end. And it's like, what?

What courage and as men too, I mean, if men had the courage of St. Philomena had, I mean, my goodness, how much better this world would be. So I just want to kick that back to you and just the inspiration she can inspire to not only, you know, children, but to men of all ages as well.

Fr Peregrine (16:38.226)
Right.

Fr Peregrine (16:42.078)
Right? Many. Yeah.

Fr Peregrine (16:50.51)
Right, and there's a lot of young men in particular who look to Saint Philomena as a patroness, as an intercessor for Holy Chastity because of just how strong she was and how she would not break her pledge to stay a virgin for Christ. And it's inspiring to young men that this beautiful young girl would do this.

And so we're finding more and more that many, many young men are praying to St. Philomena, are wearing her special cord. It's a special red and white cord. It's a sacramental associated with St. Philomena, which the popes of the past had granted an indulgence for and approved for, for devotion to St. Philomena. So yeah, so she's amazing. She's a great example. And if she can, if she can help us to be as strong as, as she was and is,

then we'll be in really good shape. We really need saints like her. And she's one of them among many beautiful examples of the Virgin Martyrs who put us men to shame, just how far they'll go to stay pure. Well, how far am I going? I need to always check myself and say I need to pray to St. Philomena and all of us can do the same.

The Manly Catholic (18:10.55)
Yeah, 100%. And I think too with, I mean, just kind of expanding now the story of being a children's story, learning about the saints. I mean, the importance too of all the men there who are fathers listening and including yourself, you know, a father is the importance of men to being a showing their children the importance of learning about the saints, you know, and, you know, like having these books that we can share with our children, the importance of setting that example.

Fr Peregrine (18:34.194)
Mm.

The Manly Catholic (18:40.854)
You know, and like right now, you know, obviously Advent, the time of this recording when this is going to be released, you know, St. Nicholas, you know, and all their traditions, the wonderful traditions surrounding St. Nicholas, you know, and what's beautiful is at Mass on Sunday, they had these little handouts of like Advent prayers and a St. Nicholas prayer. And what I just did, very simple. I just put it on our boys share a bedroom. I just, I just taped it on our

on their walls. And now every night before we go to bed, we get on our knees and we say a prayer. We say the little Advent prayer and then we say a prayer to St. Nicholas. You know, but like little things like that. And now having this, you know, not only that learning about a saint, but like you said, bringing the beauty of it too, because you know, the illustrations are phenomenal, Father. So again, well done. I know you said you're an amateur with it, but it's phenomenal and it's beautiful. And and I think people often forget.

Fr Peregrine (19:12.434)
Awesome.

Fr Peregrine (19:22.973)
Yeah.

The Manly Catholic (19:35.234)
how beauty can draw people into the faith too. And it's just so important, I can't emphasize that enough as men being that example of learning yourselves about the saints and then being able to give that back to your children, give that back, because I know you're in education and you're forming young men, but being able again to you have all these examples of incredible saints that you can then share with your novices as well.

Fr Peregrine (19:38.77)
Bye.

Fr Peregrine (20:01.698)
Absolutely. All those traditions that we have about the Saints, their lives, their stories, are customs like the St. Nicholas Day. We have a special custom here at the Abbey, which is not really our custom, but is a more universal one. The novices and many of the seminarians will put out their shoes outside their doors, and the idea is, you know, St. Nicholas will come and fill your shoes if you've been good. And I love that because they're all adult men, but there's still something childlike about that, where they still

remember those customs from their youth or their families, or just in the past, they've heard about these stories. So let's just say St. Nicholas then, St. Nicholas then goes through the hallway and fills their shoes with some kind of treat, which they always appreciate because it's Advent time. And in a monastery, traditional monastery, Advent is a time of fasting and penance. So the fact that they get a little extra treat from St. Nicholas makes them especially devoted to him. You know, they're.

The Manly Catholic (20:59.598)
percent.

Fr Peregrine (21:00.658)
So, yeah.

The Manly Catholic (21:01.994)
Now, Father, I have to ask, if you have not been nice, what goes in the shoes instead?

Fr Peregrine (21:07.154)
Well, let's just say St. Nicholas is very merciful and find something to reward, you know. He's listening.

The Manly Catholic (21:14.55)
He is a saint after all, so he's been cleansed and he's been purified, so he's all about the...

Fr Peregrine (21:19.438)
And yes, and I will say, God, we're really so blessed at St. Michael's, gosh, our men, our young vocations are so good, are so good. We have so much vocational interest and these are men who are tired of the world and all of its empty promises and glamors. And so they want a way of life that's so exclusively God-centered. So.

There's all kinds of things to see and then that we can appreciate and admire and reward.

The Manly Catholic (21:54.266)
100% and I did want to ask you know so St. Philomena I know I don't want to say there's a controversy for her background but there's there wasn't a whole lot known about her until I and I was reading I think it was like early 1800s when her what they believe her remains her tomb was discovered and do you mind sharing this with our audience you know briefly kind of her if you know it well kind of her background story how it was discovered about this wonderful

Fr Peregrine (22:05.128)
Mm-hmm.

The Manly Catholic (22:24.426)
Emperor Diocletian, which I believe was the 300s, late 300s, if I'm not mistaken, you can correct me. But then obviously, 1500 years later, roughly, then she's discovered. So do you mind walking our listeners a bit through that background?

Fr Peregrine (22:37.818)
Absolutely. So, Saint Philomena is a unique saint in many regards. Yes, we know that she was martyred in the late fourth century. And it wasn't until 1802 or thereabouts that her tomb was discovered. And there were excavators in the catacombs in Rome who were

excavating obviously, and they found a tomb and a tombstone that had been kind of dilapidated, but when they put the stones together the inscription said, Pax Tecum Philomena, or Peace to you Philomena. They opened up the tomb and they found her, they found the skeleton of a young girl around 13 years old.

and they also found a vial of her blood that was there with her, and she was there in the catacombs, and the understanding was that this young girl was a martyr, that this had all the trappings of the martyrs of the day. So her relics were removed and brought closer into Rome and the Vatican, and she was there. And when a nearby, or I should say, a southern Italian,

church was looking for the relics of a martyr, this tomb and the skeleton and the vital of blood was offered to this Italian church as we know this is a martyr, her name is Philomena, and so they gave the relics to this to this church and the care of the priest there and when the relics started traveling, miracles started happening wherever the relics went. So people began praying to her big time.

popes began praying to her. Many of the popes, Pope Gregory the 16th approved her occult, blessed Pius the 9th made pilgrimages to her. Gosh, the Saint, Pope Leo the 13th prayed to her and accepted her confraternity, universal confraternity. And all of these popes were allowing masses to be set in her honor.

Fr Peregrine (24:59.302)
shrines to be built in her honor because they recognize there are amazing miracles happening with the saint. Later on too, as the decades unfold, three visionaries received a very simple vision, but that all matched each other. The stories all matched each other of a young virgin martyr who was

alive during the reign of Emperor Diocletian and persecuted. And her story corroborates with the way he treated virgin martyrs of her time. The anchor that was around her neck, well, that was a normative way of killing Christians at the time. So these visions gave us the simple blueprint of her story, which seemed to match the...

the relics, the studies they did on the skeleton, and all this together creates the story of St. Philomena, who is backed up by all of these miracles and by many popes and documents from the Holy See. So she's controversial because in the 1960s, a lot of people and higher-ups in certain Vatican offices weren't so sure about if we should really put that much trust and faith in.

in this little Virgin Martyr, given that it's private revelations and it's these miracles that they didn't see themselves. So they just, they started to remove her masses and try to quiet down her story and her name, which worked to some degree for some years, but the devotion to St. Philomena was always still spreading and always still something that the church allowed. And even just recently,

Pope Francis blessed the miraculous statue of Saint Philomena that traveled from her shrine in Munana where they can still have masses in her honor and still can venerate her relics. And so Pope Francis blessed the statue and the pilgrims that came and said that, he quoted the curae of ours who loved Saint Philomena and has himself had a statue erected and an altar erected in his chapel in ours. Pope Francis said the curae of ours,

Fr Peregrine (27:16.55)
honored St. Philomena and took her as a patroness, and so all priests should as well. So she's kind of caught in some criticism from the past, but so many more people these days are reclaiming their devotion to this wonderful Virgin martyr.

The Manly Catholic (27:34.031)
As they should. I mean, just think about it though. A 13-year-old girl, and again, there's popes that are asking for her. I mean, it's just...the Catholic faith's amazing. Here's a 13-year-old virgin and we're...

Fr Peregrine (27:43.374)
It is traveling, traveling hundreds of miles to her shrine to ask for her intercession and to beg for her help in the church. You know, can you imagine?

The Manly Catholic (27:55.178)
Yeah, incredible, just incredible. Well, Father, I know you have to go in the next few minutes. I want to respect your time, of course, but any parting thoughts for our men listening out there about this incredible saint, where they can find this book, and also if there's any sequels coming out, any more illustrations from Father Peregrine as well.

Fr Peregrine (28:18.27)
Well, you know, I feel really blessed because working alongside Tan Books, they have so many great books available. So I want to also just say that if you go on Tan's website, if your listeners want to find some good resources, there are a couple of authors and illustrators who I want to in particular direct them to. So Katie Warner has a series of amazing books.

The Manly Catholic (28:28.118)
100%.

Fr Peregrine (28:45.574)
for young Catholics and especially that focus on vocations. She's got a great book for young, to inspire your sons to discern priesthood. Jack Georgiou, future priest, amazing. And she's got another one that just came out about a Dominican sister, it's called Sister. Claire gets ready for prayer. And basically, Katie has like published just so many, many books and people love them. And they, if you're-

If your kids have them on your shelf, gosh, they're going to have really excellent reading, especially that lead one to consider holy vocations. And also a great book illustrated by Adélie Huede, Song to Song to Song to Salatin, an introductory Latin missile. So go on TAN Books website, you'll find a million things. As far as myself, I am working on a project with another father here, the Abbey Father Frederick Schmidt. We're working on a project for TAN on the...

It's an illustrated life of Saint Michael the Archangel. So I told Tannis that it's not gonna be until 2025 that I can have anything done. So I don't have really the time to sit down and work as I would like, but if they were willing to wait till 2025, then I would be willing to do that. And they were of course willing.

The Manly Catholic (29:46.615)
Yes.

The Manly Catholic (30:04.49)
Well, Father, God bless and you are doing great work. Not only with the book on St. Philomena, but also at the Abbey as well. And I know you're a busy man, but before we let you go, do you mind just giving our audience a final blessing?

Fr Peregrine (30:17.63)
Sure.

through the intercession of our Lady, Queen of all of the angels and the saints. May the blessing of Almighty God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit descend upon you all and remain with you forever, amen.

The Manly Catholic (30:37.778)
Amen. Thank you, Father. Thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it. God bless you and all of your brothers over at St. Michael's Abbey. Thank you everyone for listening. Until next time, go out there and be a saint.